What Am I? (Kinda Easy)

Riddleman · Site Admin Joined: 18 May 2005 Posts: 598

I think this is already on here, but im not sure so i'll post it again

I can move mountains
Remove kings from their thrones
I can destroy cities
And make all people die
I've pretty much told, what am I?

Lee · Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 6:01 am Post subject:

Time

deryk · Guy Who Comes A Lot Joined: 19 May 2006 Posts: 159

the human race

Riddleman · Site Admin Joined: 18 May 2005 Posts: 598

time is correct

Unclever title · Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 4:38 pm Post subject:

Why not God?

GameMaster · Site Regular Joined: 20 Apr 2006 Posts: 55

Why it's not God... (in jest):
1.) God is Dead (Also Sprake Zaratustra)
2.) God doesn't exsist (Agnostic to Atheist)
3.) God knows who he is, and wouldn't ask "who am i" -- he's all knowing after all (Chrstian)
4.) I can prove time exsists, prove God exsists (science)

Why isn't the answer to your unanswered riddle about the wise man any of the other answer that fit the initial problem that was suggested? I've always been a fan of the idea that Riddlers must either explain why it can't be X, rather than hand waving. Riddlers who yell "It isn't X" after X is propsed (w/o justification) just aren't fair. If it's part of the problem that it isn't X, then that's fine, but adding "no, I can't tell you why it isn't X, it just isn't" is just like saying that only one way of writing 4 is the right answer to 2+2... When we all know that:

8/2 = 2+2
100 bin = 2+2 dec
etc. ad infinitum.

Here it's just for fun, but on my site, I take any answer that meets the critiria of the problem and solves the question in the problem.

Riddleman · Site Admin Joined: 18 May 2005 Posts: 598

thank you very much game master you saved me some time explaining that

GaretJax777 · Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 11:47 pm Post subject:

Gamemaster most of your points are good, except that im a Christian and i can actually prove to you that God does exist, but the fact of the matter is, that time in itself cannot actually be proven. it is actually just a theory, so stop being a moron and do research before you try to give a really complex and *smart* explanation of something.

Unclever title · Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 2:55 pm Post subject:

I understand the (in jest) meant for us not to take your reasoning seriously, but I'd have to say that was more of a wave the hand explanation than, seriously those were contradicting sources! From both Atheism and Christianity?

Second, I can prove God exists, prove You exist.

God being dean would have to mean he was once alive, and God often asks us questions he already knows the answer too, the point being to make Us think and increase Our knowledge.

Explain life and the universe without God, and boy is it difficult...

PepperMcCoy · New Member Joined: 09 May 2006 Posts: 33 Location: Nevada

I think it was rather rude to tell someone they are a moron because they believe in Time and not God if your arguement is that Time cannot be proven but God can, I would have to disagree:

How do you think you can possibly prove to me that God exists?
How can you possibly prove that God does not exist.
Its all in ones perception of the world around them. The same with Time.

Faith in God is something some people feel is true and other people do not .Just as Time is something some people feel happening and some people dont feel happening (those with alzheimers for example)

I personally am inclined to feel that Time is something I can have more faith in then God.

GameMaster · Site Regular Joined: 20 Apr 2006 Posts: 55

"I understand the (in jest) meant for us not to take your reasoning seriously, but I'd have to say that was more of a wave the hand explanation than, seriously those were contradicting sources! From both Atheism and Christianity?"

I'm a pagan, I have an idea that a deity exsits, personally, but do not see why the (all powerful) deity needs/wants our belief in it. I try not to use the term belief (though often fail) because beliefs are dangerous things and hard to change, where ideas often more maluable.

"Second, I can prove God exists, prove You exist. "
That's easy. Cogitio (sp?) Ergo Sum/Cogitio Ergo Somethng...

"God being dean would have to mean he was once alive, and God often asks us questions he already knows the answer too, the point being to make Us think and increase Our knowledge."

Hmmm...

"Explain life and the universe without God, and boy is it difficult..."

Why does it NEED and explination? Who says it has one?

GasJacks, go ahead. Show me a mathmatical or symbolic logic proof of god.

deryk · Guy Who Comes A Lot Joined: 19 May 2006 Posts: 159

the concept of god in itself is proof. if one believes god is the creator, then what ever created us is god. if one believes god is everything that is, than proof is everywhere.
secondly, people with alzheimers has nothing to do with anything. my grandmother has it and she seems to "feel" time. time is man made, and all it really is is a measurement of movement. Everything happens in the now while past and future can only exist in thought. for example, its safe for me to say ur not gonna read this but u are reading this now.
and lastly, everything has an explanation. do we need to know the explanation to the everything? in my opinion no we dont NEED to know, but it wouldnt hurt knowing would it?

diminuton · New Member Joined: 22 Jul 2006 Posts: 7

A belief is not proof- believing that there are pink unicorns swimming in my teacup doesn't prove it to be true. I'm curious as to what proof any of you have of god. Concrete, undisputable proof that doesn't require the same type of reasoning as a schizophrenic proving to you that there are invisible gnomes in their closet because they can hear them through the door. Reasonable doubt has caused me to toss the idea of an omnipotent daddy in the sky, it'd be great if you could change my mind.
As for proving I exist, I occupy a certain point in space, no other solid object can occupy the same point simultaneously, I can interact with the things around me, and I am conscious of my identity. So as far as my subjective reality extends, which is really all we have to base logic on in the first place, I'd say I exist. Prove that I don't.

deryk · Guy Who Comes A Lot Joined: 19 May 2006 Posts: 159

i guess i didnt explain it well enough. perhaps we have different views on what god is. indeed there is no daddy in the sky. if that is what u believe god to be (an omnipotent daddy in the sky), than of course there is no proof that he exists. we must look at the concept of what god is to see the proof. if u believe god is all that is, and not some he she or it, and not some being with a personality, and not something that would take any specific form for that matter, than again, there is proof everywhere. maybe if i changed "wut u believe god is" to "what the definition of god is", or even like gamemaster said "what your idea of god is" it would help u understand my point. hmm prove that u dont exist. ha ha if i prove that u dont exist than id be proving that im a schizophrenic, and id rather not do that or even try Very Happy

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diminuton · New Member Joined: 22 Jul 2006 Posts: 7

I understand what you're saying but was talking about the typical western idea of God, the "creator," since there was at least one Christian who posted they could prove his existance. The definition of God wouldn't have helped me understand your point though, as it agrees with how monotheistic religions describe him. But if we're going to look at this from a broader perspective and God is not a 'he or she or it', then why is "God" given a name, and a capitalized one at that? And by this reasoning, wouldn't we also be God? My dog is God, and so is my waterbottle. It sounds a bit absurd to me.

deryk · Guy Who Comes A Lot Joined: 19 May 2006 Posts: 159

those are good questions. i would say yes, your water bottle and your dog are all part of god, but thats just my opinion. hmm why is god givin a name? well why is infinity given a name? why is the universe givin a name?

diminuton · New Member Joined: 22 Jul 2006 Posts: 7

If everything is part of God, and if you believe God to be eternally balanced or perfect, then killing babies is simply altering the form of God is it not? Which wouldn't make it murder since the form has only been changed, not the perfect state.
There are also no special properties observed to define God in this instance that I'm aware of, like there are for infinity or the universe, since as you said God is not a he, she or it. So where exactly -is- God in accordance to this belief? What defining properties can we attach to this name?

DeadMan · Site Regular Joined: 19 Jan 2007 Posts: 56

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deryk · Guy Who Comes A Lot Joined: 19 May 2006 Posts: 159

I'm not advocating murder! call it what u want; murder, annihilation, massacre, an accident, a sacrifice, a casualty. regardless of how u want to describe it, killing is killing. which i consider very wrong. but hey its just my opinion that killing is wrong, not all would agree now would they.

sure diminuton, if someone kills a baby it would simply be altering the form of god in a way, but it is also ending someones life so i see no justification.

when i said god isn't a he she or it i meant that god isn't just one of them in specific but rather all of them. define god as a he she or it if u must but only for practical reasons.